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ATTN: THE GREAT DREAMWIDTH MILLIGRATION 2012
we know what we're doing
milliways_mods wrote in ways_back_room
Hello all, and welcome to the official Big Fat Organisation Post for the move to Dreamwidth! This gets long and rather list-happy, so it's been broken up into handy little sections. But first, some important notes:

First: you will notice that the first steps for most of the bits in Section 6 are basically the same. This is because we want to get as many character journals as possible, past and present, backed up to Dreamwidth. Why? Partly so that all their past entries/comments show up all pretty and with the right icons, but also so that, if and when LJ does what LJ does best and screws their site up even more, as much of the game's history as possible will still be accessible on Dreamwith. So if you've been putting off backing up journals for your old characters, now's the time to do it. Cool? Cool.

Second: please read this post carefully before you decide what you want to do with your characters, especially the section on rebooting the cast list and freeing up retired characters. Please also make sure you have read the post thoroughly before you ask a question. We have done our best to cover everything, and while we are happy to help, we also have plenty to be getting on with without needing to answer questions that are covered in the body of the post.

Third: if you have a character that you have not played in a long time, but that you have never formally deleted or retired, that character is technically considered active. Unsure of your character's status? Check the old cast list!

And last, but not least: we will be posting deadline reminders, notification of schedule changes, and any other important information to ways_back_room. To keep up with announcements, please follow the community, or track the 'mod post' tag to receive alerts.





1. We're moving?

2. What exactly is going to happen to my content at Milliways?

3. The schedule

4. Rebooting the cast list, and freeing up retired characters

5. Organisation Pt. 1

     a. Milliways sub-communities
     b. New contact list
     c. New room list
     d. New stables stockline

6. Organisation Pt. 2
     a. I have active characters I am bringing along to Dreamwidth
     b. I have active characters I want to retire
     c. I have active characters I want to delete

     d. I have retired characters I wish to keep out of circulation
     e. I have retired characters I am okay with opening up for new players
     f.  An ex-player has a retired/dropped character that I want to keep out of circulation
     g. I have retired characters I want to play again

     h. I have reserved characters that I want to keep reserved
     i.  I have reserved characters I am okay with freeing up for new players

     j. I can't remember who my characters are

7. Help!
     a. Dreamwidth importing/OpenID claiming screencap tutorial
     b. Cast list error messages
     c. I have a character whose name / username / canon begins or ends with the number '3'





1. We're moving?

If you are coming here from the giant email of doom, and/or have somehow missed all of the billionty back room posts on the subject, you may be scratching your head right now. Yes, Milliways is moving to Dreamwidth. Our reasons for this have been extensively discussed but can essentially be boiled down to:

1. LJ's recent changes to the default comment scheme have FUBAR'd comment threads and subject headers, and caused severe accessibility issues, both for users who are prone to migraines, and for those who routinely use screen readers to navigate the site. We do not believe that we should have to employ hacks and workarounds just to make the site usable again, and as a game that highly values its players as a community, we believe that forcing users with accessibility needs to rely on stopgap measures is unacceptable.

2. Over the years, LJ has become an increasingly hostile environment for fannish content, and has demonstrated ever greater disregard towards the needs and interests of its existing userbase. At this stage, given trends both recent and long-reaching, we are no longer confident that any content on LJ will remain accessible. Milliways has a great deal of history that is valuable to a great many people; as mods, we believe that a move to Dreamwidth is in the best interests of the game's past, as well as its future.

For more information, please follow the link above. Please note, however, that this subject is not up for discussion. The decision has been made and voted upon, and while we appreciate that you may still have concerns or questions, the comments of this post are purely for discussing the various mechanics of the move.
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2. What exactly is going to happen to my content at Milliways?

The entirety of milliways_bar will be imported to [community profile] milliways_bar at Dreamwidth. All imported comments and entries will be displayed as belonging to the OpenID of the original poster - so, a comment made by character on LJ will show up as belonging to [identity profile] character.livejournal.com on Dreamwidth.

You will retain control over all your content at Milliways. If you want to edit or delete imported content on Dreamwidth, you simply need to log in to Dreamwidth with your OpenID, and you will have the same level of control over your Milliways entries and comments as you do on LJ.
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3. The Schedule:

MONDAY 6TH - MONDAY 20th FEB:
  • New cast list launches!
  • Get going! Re-list your active characters and your retired characters you wish to keep out of circulation. Make back-up Dreamwidth journals for all your characters (yes, all of them, past and present), and note any new retirements/deletions in the back room roster post.
  • Allpocalypse plot is set into motion.
MONDAY 20th FEB:
  • Re-listing and backing up continues.
  • You may now also begin re-listing as retired any characters belonging to other muns that you wish to see kept out of circulation. 
WED 22nd - THURS 23rd FEB:
  • ALLPOCALYPSE NOW
  • THURS 23rd FEB: LAST POST ON LJ
?FRIDAY 24th FEB:
  • Mods take a breather, make sure nothing anywhere is critically broken, etc.
  • Start wrapping up your slowtimes on LJ.
SATURDAY 25th FEB:
  • PLAY BEGINS ON DREAMWIDTH
WEDNESDAY 29th FEB:
  • DEADLINE FOR RE-LISTING CHARACTERS ON NEW CAST LIST
?THURSDAY 1st MARCH:
  • Apps open for 2 weeks.
WEDNESDAY 7th MARCH:
  • DEADLINE FOR FINISHING SLOWTIMES ON LJ
  • Last import of comments from LJ to DW.

If the list above is a little overwhelming, take a gander at this handy calendar, instead!





4. Rebooting the Cast List:

We are also using the move as an opportunity to free up retired characters for apping by new players. The game has been around for a very long time, and continuity and story are important to us, so all characters who are currently retired will remain on a legacy cast list, for posterity. However, unless they are re-listed on the new cast list, they will be available for apping under the 'One Universe Over' clause - that is, any new versions of those characters will be considered to come from the next universe over from the originals. Their in-game canon will not be affected or contradicted; their story in Milliways will Stay Happened. For more information, see here and here.

HOWEVER, for various reasons, it may be that there are retired characters that you wish to re-list on the cast list, and so keep out of circulation. These characters may be yours; they may also be characters belonging to other/former players (for example, your character's BFF who died in a tragic Loompa-related accident years ago, and a new version of whom it would be hugely breaky for your character to have running around the bar). If so, check out sections 6d and 6f, respectively.

To sum up the distinctions in another way:

I want my character's game history to Stay Happened, and I want to keep other people from apping them: 6d.

I want my character's game history to Stay Happened, but I am okay with a new One Universe Over version being apped: 6e.

I am okay with having my character technically removed from game continuity (though individual players/pups may remember them or not, as they choose): 6c.

All that being said, please don't go overboard with re-listing retired characters. The Dreamwidth move is an excellent chance to shake off some dead wood and bring in new blood, so consider carefully whether you really need or want to keep a character retired.
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6a. I have active characters I am bringing along to Dreamwidth:

  1. Create a mirror Dreamwidth account for them (same username optional, but preferred). Then visit Dreamwidth's import tool, and import their LJ. Add a link to their old LJ in the profile info, and vice-versa.
    • This will import all active icons from their LJ. If some of your icons are inactive and you want to bring them to Dreamwidth, you will need to either renew your paid account/icon package on LJ and then import, or buy a paid account on Dreamwidth ($3 = 1 month) and upload the remainder of your icons manually.

  2. Then claim their OpenID (URL = theirljusername.livejournal.com). Assuming you have icons imported with the right keywords, this will make all their past entries/comments display properly on Dreamwidth, with the correct icons.


  3. Add them to the new cast list.


  4. Join [community profile] milliways_bar. Also join [community profile] ways_back_room, and/or track the 'mod post' tag for important announcements.


  5. All done!
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6b. I have active characters I want to retire:
  1. Create a mirror Dreamwidth account for any characters you are retiring (same username optional, but preferred). Then visit Dreamwidth's import tool, and import their LJ. Add a link to their old LJ in the profile info, and vice-versa.
    • This will import all active icons from their LJ. If some of your icons are inactive and you want to bring them to Dreamwidth, you will need to either renew your paid account/icon package on LJ and then import, or buy a paid account on Dreamwidth ($3 = 1 month) and upload the remainder of your icons manually.


  2. Then claim their OpenID (URL = theirljusername.livejournal.com). Assuming you have icons imported with the right keywords, this will make all their past entries/comments display properly on Dreamwidth, with the correct icons.


  3. If you wish to keep them out of circulation, add them to the new cast list, choosing '[RETIRED]' from the dropdown menu. If you want to free them up for new players, skip this step; your character will remain listed on the legacy cast list.


  4. Go to this post.
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6c. I have active characters I want to delete: Go to this post.
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6d. I have retired characters I wish to keep out of circulation:

  1. Create a mirror Dreamwidth account for them (same username optional, but preferred). Then visit Dreamwidth's import tool, and import their LJ. Add a link to their old LJ in the profile info, and vice-versa.
    • This will import all active icons from their LJ. If some of your icons are inactive and you want to bring them to Dreamwidth, you will need to either renew your paid account/icon package on LJ and then import, or buy a paid account on Dreamwidth ($3 = 1 month) and upload the remainder of your icons manually.


  2. Then claim their OpenID (URL = theirljusername.livejournal.com). Assuming you have icons imported with the right keywords, this will make all their past entries/comments display properly on Dreamwidth, with the correct icons.


  3. Add them to the new cast list, choosing '[RETIRED]' from the dropdown menu.


  4. All done!
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6e. I have retired characters I am okay with opening up for new players:
  1. Create a mirror Dreamwidth account for them (same username optional, but preferred). Then visit Dreamwidth's import tool, and import their LJ. Add a link to their old LJ in the profile info, and vice-versa.
    • This will import all active icons from their LJ. If some of your icons are inactive and you want to bring them to Dreamwidth, you will need to either renew your paid account/icon package on LJ and then import, or buy a paid account on Dreamwidth ($3 = 1 month) and upload the remainder of your icons manually.


  2. Then claim their OpenID (URL = theirljusername.livejournal.com). Assuming you have icons imported with the right keywords, this will make all their past entries/comments display properly on Dreamwidth, with the correct icons.


  3. All done! Your character will remain listed on the legacy cast list, but will be available for re-apping under the 'One Universe Over' principle.
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6f. An ex-player has a retired/dropped character that I want to keep out of circulation:
    • Wait until FEB 20th to give their old player a chance to add them. If by then they are not on the new cast list...

    • Add them to the new cast list, choosing '[RETIRED]' from the dropdown menu.

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6g. I have retired characters I want to play again:
  1. Create a mirror Dreamwidth account for them (same username optional, but preferred). Then visit Dreamwidth's import tool, and import their LJ. Add a link to their old LJ in the profile info, and vice-versa.
    • This will import all active icons from their LJ. If some of your icons are inactive and you want to bring them to Dreamwidth, you will need to either renew your paid account/icon package on LJ and then import, or buy a paid account on Dreamwidth ($3 = 1 month) and upload the remainder of your icons manually.


  2. Then claim their OpenID (URL = theirljusername.livejournal.com). Assuming you have icons imported with the right keywords, this will make all their past entries/comments display properly on Dreamwidth, with the correct icons.


  3. Add them to the new cast list.


  4. Join [community profile] milliways_bar. Also join [community profile] ways_back_room, and/or track the 'mod post' tag for important announcements.


  5. Go to this post.
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6h. I have reserved characters that I want to keep reserved:
  1. Add them to the new cast list, choosing '[RESERVED]' from the dropdown menu.
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6i. I have reserved characters I am okay with freeing up for new players: Do nothing! Congratulations!
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6j. I can't remember who my characters are: Go to this post.
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7b. Cast list error messages:
  • ERROR: Please try again
    • Caused by too many concurrent database connections. Wait a few minutes and try again, or come back later!



  • An error occured while attempting to add your character to the pending queue. This may be because they are already listed (approved or unapproved), or because the email address you submitted has already been used.
    • The cast list requires a unique email address for every entry. Please read the instructions on the form and try again!

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7c. I have a character whose name / username / canon starts or ends with the number '3':
  • The cast list will trim off any submitted value that starts or ends with the number '3'. Because of... gremlins. Yeah. So 3:10 to Yuma becomes :10 to Yuma, [personal profile] mycharacter123 becomes [personal profile] mycharacter12, and so on.

    If you have a character whose name / username / canon (/ any other field) starts or ends with the number '3', leave a comment here after you submit them to the cast list, giving their full details.

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If you have any questions, comments, or glaring omissions to point out, please use a subject line in your comment. This will not only make the comments easier for us to navigate, but will help others who may have a similar question to find an answer.

(The observant among you may be thinking: "But mods! We haven't gotten any email yet!" Don't worry, this is all a cunning ruse, whereby we allow you lot to catch any obvious mistakes and stress-test the cast list for a short while, before sending out an email and a link to this post to, oh, about 1500 people.)

ETA: Okay, a great swathe of folken have just gone and subscribed to [community profile] milliways_bar without actually joining the community. Subscribing will let you follow the community, but does not make you a member. If you plan to continue playing a character, you must JOIN the community with that character's journal.

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Re: Cast List Error Message

Hmm. Before your last ETA, I was going to reply with:

I suspect there may be a slight bug to do with fields beginning or ending with a numerical character; despite both being listed properly in the fandoms list, 3:10 to Yuma and Warehouse 13 came in as :10 to Yuma and Warehouse 1 respectively, and had to be fixed before adding.

I'm about to step out for a bit, but I'll test it out when I get back, and let you know when I figure it out.


But with Cooper, that is evidently not the case. I will poke at it when I get back; if we're lucky, it's hopefully nothing more than two people trying to submit at once.

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Please remind me how exactly reserved status works?

More specifically, when most of the old Danny Phantom muns left the game, ladyiapetus and I got their permission to take control of their pups' journals, but as far as I can recall (correct me if I'm wrong) we didn't officially adopt them because we were just using them for OOMs and we'd prefer to find new muns to adopt them if anyone wanted to. If (and we haven't settled on this yet, but I want to be clear if it's even an option) we decide we'd prefer to avoid One Universe Over versions, but we'd still like to have these versions picked up if there are any takers, does reserved status apply to that?

Yes, that would be the simplest option at the moment, though you should also list their LJs/DWs as well as their reserved status.

(We're semi-sorta thinking about whether/how we should include an indication on the cast list that some characters may be adoptable in non-One-Universe-Over form rather than available for re-apping, but right now that's something that's on the agenda for after the move.)

How do I treat a character that I retired and might want to play again, but am not sure. And also would add his canon has been extremely rebooted.

Well, you have until the 29th of the month to decide whether or not you want to unretire him, so... there's that?

Alternatively, you can list him as retired on the new cast list, which will keep him from being apped by anyone else in the meantime. Then when you decide what you want to with him, you can either unretire him at your leisure post-move, leave him where he is, or let him go to legacy status.

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Mistakenly left out missing info.

OY.

Because I had to refill the form a couple of times for Tristran Thorn, the last time it went through - and the time it actually successfully went through - I completely forgot to list him as [RETIRED].

I'm pretty sure I accidentally left that blank. D:

Um.

Help, please?

-- Also! I can't seem to add Hermione Granger to the list. I keep getting one of those Error: Try Again messages.

Thanks in advance! And I'm sorry for the earlier mistake!

Edited at 2012-02-07 04:27 am (UTC)

Re: Mistakenly left out missing info.

Fixed Tristran Thorn! Give it a few minutes with Hermione; the problem seeeeems to be related to simultaneous submissions and database snottiness, so it should go through if you try again in a bit.

If it doesn't, let me know.

I got my wires crossed and managed to add Anna Milton to the cast list twice.

Sorry.

Can one be removed?

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Re: Error regarding X-23

It's not you! Apparently, it's the cast list that hates anything beginning or ending with the number 3. OKAY THEN, CAST LIST.

Fixed, in any case, and I'll do my best to figure out what in the hell is causing such a random bug.

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I would really rather not monopolize a bunch of usernames on DW just to back up characters I don't intend to play; I have been backing up inactive/retired characters to an account I made specifically for RP archiving, instead. Is that going to be a problem for listing them on the cast list, for the ones not being released post-move?

Mmmwhile it's awkward but I guess doable, my main concern there would be OpenID claiming and allowing past game threads to display properly in Milliways.

Should you happen to be a member of Ways_Staff and/or Ways_Office, please feel free to join those comms over on DW.

They have the same names*, and open enrollment**.


* why mess with perfection?
** because I am lazy.

skipping to older entries in multi-tag search

So I was all set to go, hey, updating links to Claudia's OOMery, I can do that! Only...
I seem to be only seeing 10-20 entries in the page view provided by the link example you gave (substituting claudia+donovan for your+character+tag, of course), and there's no way to page back. I tried adding a ?skip to it, but that just gave me ALL THE OOMS, not specifically Claud's.
Help?

Re: skipping to older entries in multi-tag search

...Hmmmmm. Try this, maybe?

?skip=20&mode=all&tag=claudia+donovan,oom

I'm not sure why the skip link isn't appearing, but I am noticing some additional hinkiness with tags - for instance, searching for 'crowley' and 'oom' gives me zero entries, which I know to be, uh, patently untrue, while I can skip back fine when searching for 'crowley' and 'raguel'.

We had an import failure with the comments last night, so idk if it's related to that; I have a support request open, so I'll see if it repairs itself once that's sorted out.

(In the meantime, if anyone else reading has anything to report on the matter, please do!)

Edited at 2012-02-09 04:45 am (UTC)

Late to the game and finally adding my pups. I do have a question though, in the email field for the cast list, do you want us to put in an email like the example (say for this guy; u2642 [at] milliways) or do we need a different host name? Does Dreamwidth do the faux email like LJ for user accounts? If we use the milliways host name does that actually function as an email service?

This is spooky_lemur being lazy and not logging out.

In order:

1) Yes, do it like the example (so, u2642@milliways.bar).

2) Dreamwidth provides an email forwarding service like LJ, but only for paid accounts.

3) No, @milliways.bar is not a functioning host name.

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Re: About the Backroom info link

Yep, it's supposed to point to the profile page for the main bar.

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Hey guys, could you use the bcc: field with the next few rounds of emails? It'd be appreciated.

Thank you!

Sorry! D:

Preparatory googling seemed to suggest that bulk email sent from BCCs was for some reason more likely to set off spam alerts and/or get your account temporarily frozen than mail from CCs - but point taken! There are still a few batches to go out over the next few days (cursed 500/24hr limit!), but I'll split them up into smaller chunks over a few hours each day rather than doing all 500 at once, and, er. Cross my fingers that we don't get frozen for spam, I suppose!

So on the cast list I have Ben listed as Ben || X5-493 except where it just says X5-49 which amuses me since it makes it seem like he's a clone of a clone that hasn't been made yet.


Also this is a fault of mine but I noticed on the contact list I have Ben listed as X5-494 so can we change that to his real designation number 493 since he's not Alec

Edited at 2012-02-13 05:47 pm (UTC)

Fixed, and fixed.

Oddball situation: Petra Arkanian and Bonzo Madrid have an exceedingly complex history. I don't know if Juni is going to want to be involved with Dreamwidth (I don't know her feelings). I'm not totally opposed to someone taking her over, but I want to bloody well make sure that if someone does, we have a very friendly sit-down-and-talk so that I don't get a confused kid here.

I would first of all wait and see if Juni adds Petra herself, and then if that hasn't happened by Mon 20th (as per the schedule), add her to the new cast list as retired. The cast list now has a note stating that both reserved and retired characters are potentially available for apping/adopting, with permission from the relevant people, and in the meantime Juni could still opt to unretire Petra.

That said, the actual best thing to do in order to avoid any crossed wires would be to simply contact Juni and ask.

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